Or your quartz watch has been sitting in the drawer for weeks and now the date is wrong. Again, it running EXCELLENT for 3 days, then losing ~8 seconds a day sounds unusual. Andy, You would turn the crown away from you (clockwise) to wind it. I love the watch, btw. Remember that both hard acceleration and hard engine braking (deceleration) are equally important during the break in process. That data includes quartz watches as well, so it’s not much help. I can simply set the time, wind it and the watch keeps perfect time all day long. Hello Fred. Our new ARA watches are regulated to be accurate within about 5-7 seconds a day. I will be able to wear the watch Saturday through Monday (12 hours a day) and Tuesday through Friday (about 5 hours a day intermitently). So, I have an Orient automatic watch. Thank you. I have a Breitling Chronomat 47mm that is supposed to have a 72-hour power reserve. Watch accuracy is an average of seconds between all three positions. Every two months is a good ‘break-in’ period for timekeeping of a new watch. Thanks. This seems like it is operating normally for me. Three adjustment positions. Airport security gates do not expose your watch to magnetism so that is not an issue. In addition to measuring accuracy, timegraphers offer a snapshot of the health of your watch (a low amplitude or high beat rate can be a sign of mechanical failure). It has kept poor time for years, and in the time it’s been in my family we didn’t know about manual winding. Hopefully that will resolve your issue. To really see what the normal use accuracy is, you have to establish a consistant wearing time per day. Something does not sound right. Over a million official chronometer certificates are delivered each year, representing only 3% of the Swiss watch production. Once those brake pads and rotors are mounted, it is essential to properly break them in. I have recently acquired a Bvlgari automatic watch. I hope you can help me with my new Tudor style. If I bought a watch like that for $50, I would just think of it as a manual wind watch. Hi, Maxime. Hi, i have bought a speedmaster as a present but need to keep it hidden for about 6 months- will it damage the watch if not wound up in that time? I just recently pulled out my (I believe 1980)Seiko automatic with 17 jewels (as it says on the face of the watch). Hi Cory, first off I want to say this blog is awesome and I have learned a lot from you and the article. thanks in advance. Hi all i have a breitling chronomat evolution what kind of winder would be best for it budget wise. Does anyone know if it is possible to turn off page breaks in Word? How Does an Automatic Watch Work? This watch has Breitling’s in house movement and claims to run -4/+6 seconds, so is out of that range. I have been tracking my latest purchase -a Hamilton Jazzmaster with ETA 2834-2 movement- for 4 weeks. I have an Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra 8500 and I was wondering how often I should manually wind it since I don’t wear it everyday (I might wear it two times a week). (customer support said NO) The watch has problems and needs to be repaired by a watchmaker. This may be great if you are going to print everything, but, honestly, I print very little of the documents I write. With its Swiss-made automatic functioning, the Victorinox ‘Alliance’ Swiss Automatic is a sleek, modern, and novel watch. Take it back to the shop who serviced the watch. If you have the Valjoux 7750, you should set your winder at CLOCKWISE and 900TPD. Hello, I recently purchased a Tissot PRC Chrono auto. Also known as self-winding or perpetual, automatic watches wind themselves using an internal moving weight that winds or rotates when the wearer moves their arm, transferring energy to a power reserve and keeping the watch … The most important breakin period is that of the wearer of the watch. If Rolex just serviced the watch, you have a great warranty with them. This being said I wound the watch about 25-30 turns the first time it came out of the box. I would be amazed at any dealer who would accept the return of a worn watch that meets the accepted specifcations. Thanks!! In am travelling a lot and change the time zones on a weekly basis. My understanding is it COULD damage the movement if things are lined up just wrong. And, would that be true of non-mechanical movements as well? You can hear the “click” on almost any watch – if you hold it to your ear. Why are calendar complications different? Do I need a watch winder? It is fine to keep the watch idle. Question, when you put it on the winder, do you wind it first? Hi, I have my first automatic watch just a few days, it is Kenneth Cole automatic watch.it seems running fast 24 seconds a day. Don’t overwind. Just wind them when you wear them. The Ops Manual didn’t say. If you let me know which Longines model you have, I can try to help. Hi Cory. They can also be wound with some wrist movement, but as the above article points out, it won’t run as well if the power reserve is low. I bought my tag carrera calibre 8 last Oct (14) and I was having similar problems to those reporting. Personally I would just wind them as needed when worn. Like most mechanical devices, a new automatic watch (or a watch that has not been used for some time) has a break-in period that lasts for about a month or so. Amplitude is the measure of the amount of rotation in the swing of the balance wheel, in either direction. If I was wearing any watch with the Panerai OP XI (base ETA 6497), I would wind it every day I wore the watch. Thank you for the privilege of your expertise! I am asking in particular for an Oris Aquis small second, but it is good to know in general for all watches. Hi John. I have an Omega Planet Ocean Seamaster Cal. Based on your description, the power reserve should be showing over half power. They never stop running but run slow, could the settings on my winder be incorrect or is this normal operation? It sounds like something may be wrong with your watch. Every time I put on my self winding watch it stops within 5 minutes and starts when I take it off . Please go to the Instagram Feed settings page to connect an account. If you can, and you have never done that, it would be a great place to start! Is this normal? Hello, I recently purchased a Tissot T41148333 auto from Amazon. Fascinating and helpful. I wear the watch every day and have been winding the crown 40 times before resetting the time once or twice a week. When my Omega is near the point when I think it is fully wound, I hold it right up to my ear and continue winding, slowly and when i hear the “click” of the clutch slipping every 1/2 – 3/4 turn, I know it is fully wound. Mine are, as you said, -8 seconds per day. Thanks again! Is it worth returning to Breitling? I wear it every single day and find it completely stopped every third morning. Hi Cory, thank you for all the great insights. If yes, and it’s still stopping after 35-48 hours, then it sounds like something is wrong with the auto winding mechanism and would need to be addressed by a watchmaker. Purists wanted to have this watch without a date, like the original 1950s version, but according to Longines, the majority wanted a date because it is a practical complication. While most movements wind both directions, the 7750 is only clockwise. It hasn’t stopped. )do you have any recommendation for me? All just have a numerical date window. however, it starts losing time dramatically when it has a few hours left in the power reserve, like about 3-5s per hour. I suggest asking other people with mechanical watches to give it a wind to check their opinion. Hi Patrick. So am I understanding this correctly? A watchmaker could fix that. I guess I don't wind back because the minute hand is set right on. Since I was afraid to break the watch, I never wound via the crown and as a result the watch has been running slow after two years. I usually wear it for like 5-6 hours for five days and hand wind it everyday because it would stop otherwise and i have to set the time and date everyday. which my new caliber 5 aquaracer 300m seems to be doing. a month? A good crown wind should get the watch running optimally if there is no issue with the movement. Like many others I didn’t know about the hand winding. During this time, your watch is distributing the oil around, and is breaking in its gears. The watch is only 3 months old. We’ve been working with automatic watches for the last 3 decades Watch & Wares. I wear it for 5 hours per day while using the computer (I’m a writer – so just typing and walking to get coffee) and it keeps excellent time and doesn’t need winding. I recently purchased a Breitling Superocean. And rightfully so: you want your watch to operate as long and as accurately as possible. Is this normal? I know you seem to take a neutral position on winders but can it harm these watches to sit idle for month or two or longer is some instances? I wish more folks could supply data like this!! Any sudden impact could put these parts out of place or worse, even break them. Another way to keep your automatic watch fully wound is by using a winder. Why Is It Important To Wind My Automatic Watch With The Crown? I pretty much wear this 24/7! Prior to that, only watchmakers had winders. We have been selling (and buying / trading) on the Internet since 1996 and have extensive knowledge on our collection. I also have the TAG Calibre5 and find it stopped when I wake. Watches perform differently depending on their positions, such as face up, crown down, 12 down, etc. I’ve never owned a self winding watch before so this may be common knowledge to those that have, but are you aware of any general guidelines about where the hands should be (or more importantly, where they shouldn’t be) when winding a watch manually using the crown? If you have wound it fully and it does not run for 40 hours there is something wrong; it could be as simple as a sticky mainspring. Is this normal at the time of purchase, ever? I just wore it and would have to reset it if it went 8 hrs without movement. Had issues with accuracy and date turn over (3mins early). The Rolex Oyster Perpetual GMT Master II seems to go the right speed but stops permanently and starts again. Upon attempting the screw the crown back in I felt a resistance as though the watch was being over wound or that it was not liking the act of the crown being screwed back in. Thanks so much for your reply. - Page 2. And just left sitting idle? Later in the day I read your blog and winded it manually and repeated the activity and it worked like a charm. Hi Kevin. Keep the crown in its pushed-in position and wind the crown clockwise. Apparently the gear chain from the crown to the spring barrel on that movement is fairly weak – I inadvertently turned the crown gear into a crown washer…over time. Should I be worried? I have read the whole thread and understnad a little bit know – as it is my first automatic watch, but I am concerned about one thing. This may be why the watchmaker told you not to worry about it. The crown) or is it fine to be doing this every week? Hi Cory, Some say it is fine and others say there is a problem with the self winding mechanism. Mechanical watch movements - whether an automatic wind or a manual wind - are comprised of small gears, miniature screws and paper-thin springs. Just had a Rolex DayDate Presidential watch serviced worked fine for 2 weeks, got on airplane to travel from NY to ATL when I landed and looked at the time on the watch it seems to have stopped 30 minutes before we landed. This automatic system is a microcontroller based project that uses a simple basic microcontroller, which makes this product affordable. and your blog is very informative. That is normal behavior for your watch. Hi corey berry and thanks for the reply Ii ur opinion whats the best wolf design u suggest for me to get for my watch. I got it from Beaverbrooks. Thanks. 2. I would have thought that my daily activity would have kept the spring up to or beyond 1/2. Hi Cory. Mine was made last year in 2013. Top – Average variance of +/- 4 seconds per day. Hi Cory, Can you reach out to the company you bought it from? I have several automatic watches that sat for more than a year in the box without wearing or winding. I have a Heuer Silverstone (anniversary edition) with a calibre 11 movement. How do you think, should I return this watch? I had never heard this before. Now my IWC Portuguese automatic, after a difficult start is going very fast – precisely 1.5 times faster – 40 sec for a minute! – P.J. Is it normal? 25 seconds divided by 3 is 8.3 seconds per day which is acceptable. I have a Longines Conquest Heritage (L1.611.4.75.2) with a L633 calibre according to the manufacturer. Brand: Auguste Reymond Model: Automatic Charleston Reference Number: 69170 Gender: Men Period: 2011-present Movement: Mechanical automatic Case material: Steel Extras: Universal watch box Type: Analogue wristwatch Shipped Insured: Yes Condition: In working condition with visible traces of use *Case size: 35X31mm without crown. No watch should behave like that. Do you think it could be related to the fact that I never winded my watch in the past one year or it is an issue that I should bring to the manufacturer? Many thanks. The Valjoux/ETA 7550 movement is the most common chronograph movement. – P.J. Question. I think it’s mainly adding stress to the small stem that connects the crown to the movement. I believe that this watch uses a Valjoux 7750 movement. Should I go to Tag Heuer Service Center to fix this or this just normal. Are there any you would or wouldn’t recommend for my watch? I know many companies modify this movement slightly and add there own badge, but is there much variation in quality between an eta 7750 in a Tissot compared to an eta7750 in a Brietling? If it’s stopping in 25ish hours while wearing it, after a full wind, then the rotor is not working properly. As for the watch stopping, your comment “I wear it every 4-5 days.” is not explicit. It can support day/date/month/moon calendars. problem? Hello Mawet. Hello, Ricky. …. Rolex movements can be wound clockwise or counter-clockwise so that aspect does not matter. Winding most watches counter-clockwise does nothing. I have an ingersol Georgia automatic without instructions. Do u agree with her? Thank you, Have a great Holiday. Under proper usage it should not be stopping. Are the eta 7750 movements all made in the same factory or the same templates? ...I must have missed those polls that showed the aggregate wisdom (or educated guessing, which is still better than just guessing) that back and forth winding is the preferred method. Thank you. Automatic watches are very intricate pieces of engineering that bring a lot of enjoyment to its wearer. JavaScript is disabled. Been back to Breitling twice, as the Navitimer bracelet wouldn’t stay on either (turned out to be faulty Spring bars). HI there Cory, I do sit at a desk most of the time but I’d think my hand movement would be enough to keep it powered. Mine seems a bit sticky – it will move but not easily, requiring a slight shake to shift it. What is wrong. Any suggestions? Seiko watches can not be wound by the crown and don’t know if that’s Orient’s case. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, Omega watches from the 1940s came in a wide variety of sizes, shapes, and colors. Thanks & Best regards. And also which settings should I use? Considering it’s been about 6 years since a watchmaker was in the watch, it may just be time for a routine service. Something is not right. I don’t mind if it’s always +/- 4 secs but a minute is a bit fast. This wiki has been updated 7 times since it was first published in February of 2019. I hear the cheaper models can magnetise your watch and affect the components? A minimum of 15 winds to get it rolling, but we recommend 30-40 winds for just about any automatic watch. The NEW Official all things Lew & Huey Thread - Page 32, Man Finds Original LeCoultre Deep Sea Alarm At Phoenix Goodwill Store For $5.99, Sells It For $35,000″, discussion on regulating the 2892 at watchuseek.com, 3 flavors of the 7750: Info from Wikipedia, Flieger Klassik 40 no logo no date (ETA 2824-2)- is it ok to hand wind? I bought it only a month ago and I’ve noticed it’s been running almost 45 secs fast. ..but the cost of servicing it is about, or beyond the cost of getting another PR50. Is this normal? Modern Mechanical COSC Certified watchWorst Case Scenario+6/-4 seconds per day99.994% accuracyTypical+/-3 seconds per day99.996% accuracyExcellent+/- 1 seconds per day99.998% accuracy It is important to understand that a fresh watch off the shelf may need a break-in period of a month or so. Good information…thanks. And there have been quite a few others who have made use of peripherally wound movements. 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